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I am fully on board with qualia realism and value objectivism, but if I were to look for a way to challenge this argument, perhaps I'd say "a lot turns on the notion of absurdity - but perhaps absurdity can be taken to just mean utter empirical unfamiliarity? If I see a tree with blue leaves, perhaps I would say 'how absurd', because this is utterly unfamiliar to me, but this neither implies logical nor rational absurdity, just 'empirical absurdity' if you can call it that. And because I have never seen someone strive for pain and avoid pleasure, this seems 'empirically absurd' to me".

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I think the way to defend that Inverted Ian is absurd from Alex's viewpoint would be to deny that there are objective stance-independent facts about what is absurd or rational. Inverted Ian is absurd in the way that torturing babies is immoral -- stance-dependently.

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